{"id":139904,"date":"2014-03-15T11:52:22","date_gmt":"2014-03-15T18:52:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/?p=139904"},"modified":"2014-03-15T11:52:46","modified_gmt":"2014-03-15T18:52:46","slug":"interview-kurt-russell-on-the-art-of-the-steal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/2014\/03\/15\/interview-kurt-russell-on-the-art-of-the-steal\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview: Kurt Russell On &#8216;The Art Of The Steal&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been far too long since we&#8217;ve had a decent heist movie make it&#8217;s way towards theaters, and &#8220;The Art of the Steal&#8221; is just what we were asking for. It&#8217;s a clever, funny and exciting film, and leading the charge alongside director Jonathan Sobol is actor Kurt Russell. Audiences haven&#8217;t seen Kurt Russell in too many movies as of late, and why should he? The veteran actor has reached that point in his career where he can pick and choose as many, or as little, film roles as he wants. When the script for &#8220;The Art of the Steal&#8221; came across his table, he couldn&#8217;t resist but to join in on the fun.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-art-of-the-steal-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-art-of-the-steal-1.jpg\" alt=\"the art of the steal 1\" width=\"650\" height=\"268\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-140662\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-art-of-the-steal-1.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-art-of-the-steal-1-300x123.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In &#8220;The Art of the Steal&#8221; he plays Crunch, a below-average motorcycle daredevil who used to work as a conman alongside his brother Nicky (Matt Dillon). When a con goes wrong, Crunch gets the blame and lands in jail for a few years. Once he&#8217;s out, he finds himself back in the game all over again, but his ulterior motives are hard to read. ShockYa.com got the chance to speak with Kurt Russell about making the movie, working with the cast and how he approaches the craft of acting.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What was the appeal to you to join this project?<\/p>\n<p>Kurt Russell:<\/strong> I thought it was clever, and by clever I mean it took what I felt was a conmen then art\/art heist and combined all of them with a sting movie. To have a sting movie, you have to have an audience involved. I love it when the writer has the acumen to put together a screenplay that gives him the feeling that he\u2019s earned the right to almost start the movie and point the finger at the audience and say \u201cAll right, so you\u2019ve gotten jerked back and forth a few times and you can\u2019t say that it\u2019s been done dishonestly but you\u2019ve got three seconds to answer, who\u2019s doing what to who? You\u2019ve got to come up with an answer.\u201d I think that those movies are very rare. It puts the intelligence of the writer\/director on display. <\/p>\n<p>When people talk about taking risks and making movies, I often chuckle to myself and say \u201cThat was a real big risk, pays you fifteen million dollars, what a big risk.\u201d What\u2019s risky is when you put your brains on display. When you\u2019re laying yourself out there as a writer\/director to be criticized for how smart you are. I\u2019ve read a lot of scripts over 52 years and this was clever. Now, the question is then, how do you pull that off and who\u2019s the guy to pull that off. When it\u2019s the same guy who wrote it, you often run into a lot of problems. They\u2019re generally the first person to bail out on themselves and I\u2019ve seen that a number of times. It\u2019s shocking when you see it, see the very guy who wrote it bail off of his stuff because he just doesn\u2019t know how to do it instead of saying \u201cLook, here\u2019s what I\u2019m trying to do. Can somebody here help me do that?\u201d and you go \u201cYeah, I can.\u201d I just want to know exactly what it is you\u2019re trying to do. What was great about working with him was he put together a group of people that almost to a man or woman said \u201cI get what this is, you might have to put me on track every once in a while, you\u2019re always gonna be the one who says that\u2019s not quite it.\u201d You\u2019re always gonna be the captain of the ship. As long as you have that person who\u2019s not afraid to make those decisions and take responsibility for that then you\u2019re free to say \u201cHow far do we want to go in this scene?\u201d  I can do this or I can do this or I can do this. And you keep taking this little chess piece and move it all along the board and move it to the end and say \u201cThat still works.\u201d That\u2019s a good one. It sounds simple but it\u2019s pretty complex when you\u2019re doing movies that are out of sequence because of the way you have to shoot it and you\u2019ve got actors working on different days who aren\u2019t there to  double check and you\u2019ve got to remember to tell him that you\u2019ve done this instead of that. So a lot is put on his plate and I think it\u2019s our job as actors to do as much as we can to clean the plate but put all the best ingredients on it for him to choose from.<\/p>\n<p><strong>There\u2019s a moment with you and Matt Dillon where he steals from a little girl and you yell at him about a robber\u2019s code. Is there a code you operate by in your job?<\/p>\n<p>Kurt Russell:<\/strong> Yeah, I\u2019m sure there is. I don\u2019t know if I could put my finger on it to make it interesting for you but there are some codes. My code is very simple and goes back to what my dad said to me. One of the early jobs I got, I was maybe ten years old and my dad, it was one of the only things he said to me about acting, \u201cOk, you\u2019re getting paid a man\u2019s salary, do a man\u2019s job.\u201d That was it. [The director] and I really do like each other. I know that it\u2019s fun to work with people always but it\u2019s a different thing to appreciate them for what they\u2019re trying to do. Let\u2019s face it, if this was your fifth movie, this movie would be different, better in many ways and probably in a raw way, not quite have an energy that you always want to keep in your movies. It\u2019s always a fun thing to imagine getting better but keeping that raw energy that comes with youth and ignorance and exuberance and not being afraid. But I do appreciate John and appreciated his screenplay and what he was doing. I thought it was impressive that he was laying himself out there and saying \u201cI think this is funny and kind of sharp, what do you think?\u201d To me, it\u2019s the kind of thing that you don\u2019t often get to do. It\u2019s generally not about that. It\u2019s generally about having something to say and having a tale to tell. This is not that. This is just being in the world of movies that I just think, I just love going to the movies and finding out I\u2019m in one of those. There\u2019s been quite a few of those lately. Take Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. It\u2019s got conmen in it. It\u2019s not an art heist movie but it\u2019s definitely a sting movie because the audience is involved and you have to say \u201cDidn\u2019t see her coming\u201d and it\u2019s kind of fun.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-art-of-the-steal-21.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-art-of-the-steal-21.jpg\" alt=\"the art of the steal 2\" width=\"650\" height=\"327\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-140732\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-art-of-the-steal-21.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-art-of-the-steal-21-300x150.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Where there any heist movies you were thinking about while making the movie? Or any that just appeal to you and are some of your favorites?<\/p>\n<p>Kurt Russell:<\/strong> We did have conversations about different things. What\u2019s interesting to me about the point of view of making them is I made another movie and when you\u2019re making the movie and when you see the end result, it\u2019s nothing exactly like when you\u2019re making it. It\u2019s what you hope you might see. Because I know when we made &#8220;Vanilla Sky,&#8221; I had similar conversations that I had with you I had with Cameron [Diaz] and Tom [Cruise]. I said \u201cNow guys, I\u2019m just confused about something here. If you got Kurt Russell and he\u2019s telling Tom \u201cDon\u2019t jump\u201d don\u2019t we want the audience to agree with Kurt \u201cDon\u2019t jump\u201d?\u201d You get down to funny stuff like that but at the end of the day, Tom kind of looked at me, and it was this two hour conversation, and Tom looked like \u201cI\u2019m not sure\u201d and Cameron was like \u201cIf he\u2019s right, we\u2019re sunk.\u201d Those conversations you do have because it\u2019ll turn on a dime. If you don\u2019t get the fullest out of it, you don\u2019t really get the most out of the thing. But if you violate, then the audience never forgives you in these kind of movies. So you\u2019re on your toes. In your defense, you\u2019re dealing with 12 people coming to you for slight changes on the outside, right away, that is better. That happens constantly. <\/p>\n<p>You\u2019re dealing with 10 to 15 of those a day. You start adding those up and once or twice or three times, you\u2019re not going to quickly add those numbers and come up with the right number. Look what happens here if you do that. That kind of thing is almost easier, I get fascinated by that. It\u2019s not easier to hold onto it because that\u2019s where you\u2019re living and you\u2019re living way deeper inside of it than I am but it is something that fascinates me in terms of looking at everything that people do, getting the most out of it, and saying \u201cWere ok, aren\u2019t we?\u201d I\u2019m not looking at the camera saying that, I\u2019m looking at her saying that. It\u2019s fine. I just always liked the idea of, and I\u2019m not gonna say what the movie is, but I love the stuff that takes place at the end where it\u2019s my favorite kind of thing of a movie where you\u2019re onboard and all these things are wrapping up. The end of this one is like a guy at a shooting range with his girlfriend and he\u2019s going \u201cBOOM. Down. BOOM. Down. BOOM. Down. BOOM. Down.\u201d And my brain is going \u201cThat\u2019s great! Here\u2019s the Teddy Bear.\u201d I love the progression where it goes down. Especially when you think it\u2019s down and things start happening rather quickly. It\u2019s this slow foreplay of what\u2019s taking place earlier and then this climax is coming at you fast and furious and nothing can stop it now because it\u2019s been taken care of, it\u2019s been done.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What I like about &#8220;The Art of the Steal&#8221; is the characters are so surprising, especially the relationships they have with each other throughout the movie.<\/p>\n<p>Kurt Russell:<\/strong> Well yeah, all I\u2019ll say is my favorite relationship in the movie is Lola and Crush. One of my favorite movies in terms of writer just knowing  more than the audience does instantaneously &#8220;Bound.&#8221; Why does &#8220;Bound&#8221; work? What\u2019s the last thing she says in Bound? \u201cWhat\u2019s the difference between you and me?\u201d and she says \u201cI don\u2019t know\u201d \u201cI don\u2019t know either.\u201d Those two girls are in love and the audience, that writer knew that the audience would just make the assumption no matter what. The love story would be between a man and a woman, no matter what. That\u2019s just a given. Wrong answer. That\u2019s why that works. What I love about how it is with Lola here is, and I\u2019m just talking about it without blowing the movie and hopefully people see the movie but the assumption is that he\u2019s an old guy that she\u2019s taking advantage of. It\u2019s just a given. We all just go in thinking that. It\u2019s just done for you. That assumption is what makes that work. Without that assumption, there\u2019s no game to play. That\u2019s on a filmic level. When I read this thing, I said I want to meet this guy because he understands things. He understands things that the audience are walking in with. They\u2019re walking in with their baggage. It\u2019s great and it\u2019s really fun to play with. So that\u2019s the kind of thing that you\u2019re literally spending millions of dollars and hopefully coming up with something great based ultimately at the end of the day is based on that understanding, that relationship is a real one. <\/p>\n<p><strong>What was it like working with Matt [Dillon]?<\/p>\n<p>Kurt Russell:<\/strong> I just thought he was such a good choice and the way he embraces that stuff. There\u2019s very few actors who know how to do that. He\u2019s just really good at it. He\u2019s an interesting actor to work with in general. Kate [Hudson], my daughter, worked with him and said \u201cYou\u2019re gonna like working with Matt, he\u2019s an interesting actor.\u201d And I did. I was just impressed with the way he, I don\u2019t know if I can understand those characters as well as an actor like Matt. There\u2019s something he\u2019s able to actually grab onto there that I wouldn\u2019t know how to find. It\u2019s like a load off your mind. When you\u2019re reading something, you have a tendency to play every role because you\u2019re trying to understand every character and then you walk in the room on the day and you realize, first of all, oh thank god I don\u2019t have to know everyone\u2019s lines, that\u2019s a load off, and then you realize you don\u2019t have to do anything but watch everybody. I just think Matt was perfect casting for this character. I think he did a perfect job.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The Art of the Steal&#8221; is out in limited theaters now.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been far too long since we&#8217;ve had a decent heist movie make it&#8217;s way towards theaters, and &#8220;The Art of the Steal&#8221; is just what we were asking for. It&#8217;s a clever, funny and exciting film, and leading the charge alongside director Jonathan Sobol is actor Kurt Russell. 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