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Producer Mark Heidelberger<\/figcaption><\/figure>What does a producer do? We ask Mark Heidelberger, the successful and renowned producer of such films as Harsh Times, Comfort and the upcoming The Basement.<\/p>\n

I imagine producers, much like filmmakers and actors, have idols \u2013 even mentors. Who are your producing mentors or idols?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I can\u2019t speak for others, but I\u2019m not really one for idolatry. I guess I\u2019ve always been a little more grounded that way. Iconic as they may be, big-name entertainers are still just people. They have issues just like you and I (some more so) and struggle with the same daily questions. So, my respect for their talent and accomplishments never really rises to that level. But I\u2019ve certainly had some good mentors. My first boss in the industry was Bobby Newmyer \u2013 a prolific producer responsible for the most quintessential indie movie ever, the one that started indie filmmaking as we know it today: sex, lies, and videotape. He then went on to do a number of big studio pictures like Don\u2019t Tell Mom the Babysitter\u2019s Dead and The Santa Clause. He showed me a lot about how the studio system worked while I served as one of his assistants on Training Day, so that was eye-opening. I also had a few great mentors while pursuing my master\u2019s in producing at UCLA \u2013 namely Myrl Schreibman who taught me a good deal about the fundamentals of production and Meg LeFauve (former producing partner of Jodie Foster) who was a genius at script development.<\/p>\n

Can you say you\u2019ve tried to emulate another producer\u2019s career or follow his or her playbook?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Definitely not. My path has very much been my own, as every producer\u2019s should be. Just like every film is different, every deal is different, each filmmaker\u2019s tastes are different from others, so too will your career path be different\u2026 whether you like it or not. And what\u2019s not to like? Why try to mimic someone else\u2019s career when you can blaze new trails?<\/p>\n

What kind of producers don\u2019t you admire? What traits are they missing…?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I have a very simple philosophy to producing. My job is to establish and maintain the creative vision while balancing it with the picture\u2019s financial needs. Protect the money and the integrity of the story. And not necessarily in that order. To do that, I hire a whole host of people that are far better at what they do than I am at what they do. Electricians, caterers, cameramen, sound people, editors, actors, costumers, and so on. I tell them the result I want, when I want it by, and the resources they have to get it. If they say they can do it, I let them go do it. I\u2019m there for support, questions and to address problems, but I don\u2019t look over their shoulder. They know what they\u2019re doing; I tell them that\u2019s why I hired them! But there are producers who lack trust in their team or are so afraid of creative collaboration or are so afraid something will go wrong that they micro-manage the whole process. I know crew hate it because you\u2019re basically telling them you don\u2019t trust them to do their job. And you know what? For those producers who won\u2019t let go because they\u2019re afraid the picture won\u2019t turn out well, it usually becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Their constant meddling is their own undoing.<\/p>\n

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Photo from the film The Basement<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Is the main goal of a producer to make the movie money?<\/strong><\/p>\n

There\u2019s a reason they call it show business and not show show. At the end of the day, it is a business and you should always be concerned with making money. Why? First, you have a fiduciary duty to your investor. Second, your livelihood and those who you hire depend on it, especially if you want investors to give you more money to make future movies. But the goal of a financial return does not exist in a vacuum. The twin goals of strong story development and proper execution are paramount to drawing in an audience and, moreover, offering something that satisfies them. Producers who are consistently able to do that \u2013 identify their audience and satisfy them \u2013 will find that the financial returns will inevitably come. It\u2019s just like any business; you identify a need in the marketplace and you create something to satisfy that need.<\/p>\n

What\u2019s been the most successful film you\u2019ve worked on, personally?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I guess that depends on how you define success. I made films that were bigger critical successes, if not so commercially, and vice versa. I did a little film called Comfort that came out last year that I\u2019m really proud of, but because it didn\u2019t have big name stars or a huge marketing budget, it wasn\u2019t able to break out commercially. However, both critical response and audience reactions were strong and validated for me the worthiness of small, personal stories that are well told. From a financial perspective, there are movies I\u2019ve been a part of that made millions, such as Harsh Times and Ninja Apocalypse, even if they underwhelmed with some critics or audiences.<\/p>\n

And which film are you the proudest of?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s tough for a father to choose his favorite kid, you know? I mentioned Comfort before, and that\u2019s definitely up there. I guess I\u2019m proud of different films for different reasons. I\u2019m proud of films like Ninja Apocalypse and Pray for Rain because we were able to really stretch the budget and squeeze out a lot of production value. Films like Flintown Kids and You\u2019ve Got a Friend had messages that resonated and reached their audiences, so that was great. I don\u2019t know. Sometimes it almost feels like whatever your newest project is, all things being equal, that\u2019s the one you\u2019re most proud of because it\u2019s the newborn baby you\u2019re doting on. I have some great new projects in the pipeline like techno-thriller LITU and true-life drama Walking on Palmettos that I feel could turn out amazingly.<\/p>\n

Most outlets no doubt ask you about the films you\u2019re producing – – I want to ask you about some of the films that didn\u2019t happen. First of all, what are usually the reasons for a film not coming to fruition? Is it genuinely financial?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes. It\u2019s almost always because you can\u2019t get the money. To me, if I have a script and I have the financing, I\u2019ll get the picture made. That stress of raising money is one of the reasons I don\u2019t do it anymore. And because of my track record, honestly, I don\u2019t have to. I let others raise the money and I only come on as a producer for hire now. Raising money is thankless, exhausting, and you don\u2019t get paid for that time. All that plus I was never really good at it anyway. There are plenty of people out there who are much better at it and who actually enjoy it, so I let them do it. That leaves me to do the parts I like, which is basically everything else.<\/p>\n

What project didn\u2019t go that you\u2019d dearly wished had?<\/strong><\/p>\n

There was a project I had in development when I was at Treasure Entertainment called High Midnight about vampires in the Old West. I really loved that script and had tried for many years to get it off the ground. I had a great team involved. Mary Lambert was attached to direct, Bonnie Timmerman was helping us cast, we had attached a number of wonderful actors like Vincent D\u2019Onofrio, Elizabeth Hurley, Thomas Kretschmann, Billy Baldwin and Ted Raimi. Stan Winston Studios had agreed to do all the effects. We even had this great Western town up in Manitoba, Canada that we were all set to shoot at. The problem was the funding. We couldn\u2019t pull together the money required to make it happen. I know the script is still floating around out there somewhere, maybe under a different title, but for whatever reason it just never saw the light of day. <\/p>\n

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Photo from the film The Basement<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

How far did you get into that project before the plug was pulled?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Probably about eight years, $50,000, and four dozen headaches later. I left Treasure in early February of 2011 and my old producing partner shuttered the company later that year. We had been working together on the project right up until that point, but my departure from the company was basically its death knell.<\/p>\n

Any others you\u2019d care to mention that didn\u2019t get the go-ahead?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Too many to count, my friend, too many to count. That\u2019s part of the deal when you\u2019re a producer. For every 10 you develop, you might get one to the finish line. And if you\u2019re doing that, you\u2019ve got a pretty good track record.<\/p>\n

What do you think of crowdfunding campaigns? Had any experience with them?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hate \u2018em. I think they\u2019re a waste of time, to be honest. For filmmaking, that is. I think they\u2019re perfectly fine for other types of ventures \u2013 product innovations and such \u2013 but I\u2019ve never had a good experience with crowdfunding and don\u2019t know any other filmmaker who has. First of all, who wants hundreds of little investors that you have to worry about satisfying obligations to, whether that be executive producer credits or shipping out signed DVD copies and posters or whatever else you\u2019ve promised them in exchange for their donation? You have too many other things to concern yourself with. Second, you just wind up bugging the same friends and family for money that you could have asked directly, but now, what, you have to pay Kickstarter and IndieGogo a fee for the privilege of using their platform? That\u2019s money that could have gone on the screen. Third, the amounts you can raise on those platforms are pittances compared to what it takes to properly produce a quality picture. They might be useful in limited circumstances like finishing funds for micro budgets, but again, you\u2019re just approaching the same people you could go to directly anyway. <\/p>\n

Do you think you\u2019ll ever step behind the camera and direct? Is that an interest?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I did some limited directing in film school and still direct a few scattered projects here and there. I actually just produced and directed a series of ads for a new music service called Playyo. And while it\u2019s fun to direct, it\u2019s not where my passion lies. It\u2019s not something I want to do as a career. I liken it to playing beach volleyball. I like playing beach volleyball \u2013 it\u2019s fun \u2013 but I don\u2019t want to be a beach volleyball player. I\u2019d rather stick to what I\u2019m passionate about \u2013 producing \u2013 and hiring the directors that will support my overall creative vision for the project. As producer, I\u2019m still the ultimate decision maker and I\u2019m the only guy that gets to be a part of the filmmaking process from the very beginning through to the very end!<\/p>\n

Tell us what\u2019s coming up for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve been in development on a $30 million film called Walking on Palmettos for the last two years, which I\u2019m co-producing with screen legend Ed Asner and hoping to get off the ground this year. It tells the true story of Myles Richards, this privileged but restless surfer who managed to build a marijuana-smuggling empire in the 1970\u2019s that made him a millionaire, but also estranged him from his disapproving father and drew the attention of a relentless FBI agent who stopped at nothing to bring him down. I\u2019m also attached to a boxing drama called Worth the Fight, which I\u2019d like to shoot next year, about an underground fighter recruited into the legit boxing world by an over-the- hill coach. It\u2019s a great story about struggle and the importance of family, as the hero must overcome his seedy past and his own insecurities to find success or risk losing his siblings to the welfare system. However, my next project will likely be a thriller called LITU for TDP Films about these two helicopter parents who buy a digital AI (think Google Home or Amazon Alexa) to tutor their ten-year- old twins, but soon find themselves in a struggle for supremacy, as the machine is smarter than they are and controls their entire home. It\u2019s very cool stuff that plays on people\u2019s fears of AI\u2019s growing dominance in our lives.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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