{"id":70593,"date":"2011-10-09T13:39:25","date_gmt":"2011-10-09T20:39:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/?p=70593"},"modified":"2017-04-10T06:43:18","modified_gmt":"2017-04-10T13:43:18","slug":"nyff-interview-melancholias-kirsten-dunst-alexander-skarsgrd","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shockya.com\/news\/2011\/10\/09\/nyff-interview-melancholias-kirsten-dunst-alexander-skarsgrd\/","title":{"rendered":"NYFF Interview: Melancholia’s Kirsten Dunst, Alexander Skarsgard And Charlotte Gainsbourg"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"Charlotte<\/a>
Charlotte Gainsbourg photo from the film Melancholia<\/figcaption><\/figure>
\nAs someone who’s generally not a Lars von Trier fan, I feel compelled to encourage everyone to toss aside your preconceptions and inhibitions and give Melancholia<\/I> a shot. No, it’s still not your standard, straightforward Hollywood fare, but that’s what makes it such a unique and genuinely special experience and, after chatting with stars Kirsten Dunst, Alexander Skarsgård and Charlotte Gainsbourg, it seems as though von Trier’s unique way of working is what made creating Melancholia<\/I> such a genuinely special experience for them.<\/p>\n

Dunst stars as Justine, a newlywed who attempts to kick off her marriage to Skarsgård’s Michael the right way, but is plagued by depression at their wedding reception. Even with her sister, Claire, played by Gainsbourg, doing everything she can to keep Justine on her feet, her sorrows are all consuming. Meanwhile, a rogue planet called Melancholia looms in the background, threatening to destroy the world as we know it.<\/p>\n

Dunst says it herself, Melancholia<\/I> is a sci-fi movie, but it\u2019s like none you\u2019ve ever seen before. In fact, the film in its entirety is like nothing you\u2019ve ever seen before and that certainly requires an exceptional mind to have behind it.<\/p>\n

In honor of Melancholia<\/I>\u2019s run at the New York Film Festival as well as its upcoming November 11th release, Dunst, Skarsg\u00e5rd and Gainsbourg sat down for a particularly intimate roundtable interview to discuss their experience working on the film from their early days on set with von Trier up until seeing the finished film for the first time. Check it all out in the interview below.<\/p>\n

How\u2019d you get involved in the project? Did Lars von Trier contact you directly?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nKirsten Dunst:<\/B> For me, I literally got an email, just like, \u2018Read this script. Lars wants to talk to you tomorrow. He\u2019s really interested in you for this movie,\u2019 and we Skyped and it was so simple. I know that two directors had recommended me because it was supposed to be Pen\u00e9lope Cruz in the film at first, so two director friends of his mentioned me for the role. We barely even talked about the script, we just talked about The Night Porter<\/I> and Charlotte Rampling and I don\u2019t know. It was really simple for me.<\/p>\n

Did you know how dark a role you would be playing?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> Yeah, I read the script. I knew I wasn\u2019t doing a WB show here. [Laughs]<\/p>\n

What was your reaction to the script? Did you have any reservations?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> I didn\u2019t. I knew that whatever journey I was going on, it would be an interesting one and I\u2019m always up for a challenge.<\/p>\n

How was the tone of the film conveyed to you?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> Personally, I just know it\u2019s a Lars film. I didn\u2019t think stylistically how it would look so much until we were getting to these homes. Did anyone else?
\nAlexander Skarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> No.
\nCharlotte Gainsbourg:<\/B> No, visually I didn\u2019t even see it as being America. The castle, it was his atmosphere.<\/p>\n

\"Lars<\/a><\/center><\/p>\n

How does working with Lars differentiate from other directors you\u2019ve worked with? What makes his style so unique?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> It\u2019s very unconventional. It was such an interesting vibe and atmosphere. We all kind of lived together in the middle of nowhere in southern Sweden. You\u2019re kind of used to working where you block a scene, then you have tape marks, then you shoot a master and the lights are coming from here and you got to find that light, and then you show up and he\u2019s just like, \u2018Alright, let\u2019s see what happens.\u2019 [Laughs] Like, \u2018Oh, that was great,\u2019 or \u2018That sucked. Let\u2019s try it again.\u2019 He doesn\u2019t care about continuity. He wants to be surprised. He wants to be like, \u2018Oh, that was interesting. I didn\u2019t expect that to happen.\u2019 You do whatever you want, but then he\u2019ll come in and you kind of feel like he\u2019s editing it in his head as he watching it and he\u2019s like, \u2018Oh, that\u2019s great, that\u2019s interesting,\u2019 and then if there\u2019s something he needs then he\u2019ll come in and he\u2019ll just whisper something like, try this and try that. It\u2019s really one of the most amazing experiences of my career.<\/p>\n

Does he have you rehearse?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> No, well he shoots it. And it\u2019s usually disaster. [Laughs] It is! Do you remember those big scenes with cars coming and going? And he\u2019s like, \u2018Alright, let\u2019s shoot,\u2019 and we\u2019re like, \u2018What\u2019s my cue? When do I drive?\u2019 But I get it because there are these moments that will happen. Most of it will be disaster because people will show up and be like, \u2018Oh shit, what I am doing here?\u2019 But then something will happen in that rehearsal, some little moment or something awkward or something that is real and you won\u2019t be able to re-create that and he\u2019ll be there with a camera and he\u2019ll capture that. And then you\u2019ll do it again obviously and you\u2019ll fix what didn\u2019t work but then he\u2019ll have those little moments that he can put in.
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> It\u2019s interesting to be off balance also. That\u2019s what he works with, I find, is trying to push you a bit off your grounds and it\u2019s very helpful.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> Well it makes it real because if you come and you\u2019re like, \u2018Alright, I\u2019m an actor and this is what I\u2019m going to do,\u2019 planted in my head. \u2018I\u2019m going to do this and then I\u2019m going to look over there when I say that line.\u2019
\nDunst:<\/B> Oh, that\u2019s not fun. [Laughs]
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> It\u2019s kind of great that he\u2019s just like, \u2018No, no, no. Break that up, do it differently, see what happens. Just be there.\u2019
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> But I find that now it\u2019s very difficult to work in a different way. You feel so free then suddenly when someone says, \u2018Okay, we\u2019re going to rehearse and you\u2019re feeling, well, you\u2019re missing stuff. It\u2019s very difficult. <\/p>\n

How do you handle that arc in the first part? At the beginning it\u2019s rather happy and fun and then there\u2019s that downward spiral.<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> We talked about that before we started it and we were all kind of on the same page, kind of like, you gotta start somewhere to be able to go down here. You can\u2019t start down there. You want a lightness and excitement. Is this gonna be a great day? You know, they\u2019re both like, \u2018Oh, okay. We\u2019re at least trying.\u2019 If you start in the limo and it\u2019s just like, [moans], where do you go from there?<\/p>\n

Did you guys shoot in order?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> No, not at all, but we did do that scene first. That was my first scene that I did.<\/p>\n

Alexander, was your character supposed to be so dumb and unaware of the situation with Justine?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> [Laughs] No, I\u2019m dumb as an actor. It\u2019s all real [Laughs]. I think he\u2019s just trying desperately. Justine is like a little fragile wounded bird or something and he believes he can make it better. He\u2019s really like, \u2018I\u2019ll take care of you,\u2019 and she kind of slowly drifts away and he\u2019s struggling and trying to, \u2018No, this is okay.\u2019 There\u2019s a scene that we shot that didn\u2019t make it into the final cut –
\nDunst:<\/B> Lars was happiest about this scene. He was so<\/I> happy with us that day. He was so<\/I> happy and then it didn\u2019t make the movie. [Laughs]
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> I know and he told me and he was devastated. He\u2019s like, [imitating von Trier] \u2018It just didn\u2019t work in the cut.\u2019 But it\u2019s a really sad moment, because Justine says she\u2019s not happy and he\u2019s like, \u2018Well, no one\u2019s happy. I\u2019m not looking for happiness. It\u2019s okay. You have moments of happiness, but no one\u2019s really happy.\u2019 And it was just so sad to hear Michael who you think is the kind of guy whose like, \u2018No, no, no. It\u2019s gonna be great,\u2019 say like, \u2018No, we\u2019re content and we\u2019ll have a pretty good life, but I\u2019m not happy. Let\u2019s just stay together because it\u2019ll be all right.\u2019 So sad in a way.<\/p>\n

Alexander, your father\u2019s worked with Lars several times, so did he have any advice for you before this shoot?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> No, he just said do it. If you ever get an opportunity to work with him, just do it.<\/p>\n

And how was it working with your father?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> Everything about it was so amazing. We shot in Sweden, so on weekends, I went up to Stockholm to see my mom and my siblings. Just an amazing ensemble, one of the greatest directors out there and my old man is in it and I love working with him and just hanging out with him. It was the first and only time I\u2019ve said yes to a project without having read the script. I just got a call and I was like, \u2018Alright, I don\u2019t know what he wants me to do, but I\u2019ll do it.\u2019<\/p>\n

Charlotte, how was this a different experience from Antichrist<\/I>?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> It was very different. The first one felt so intimate and felt like a tiny crew and going to extremes. With this character everything was more subtle, it was more difficult for me to understand and to know where I was going because it was less extreme. And the crew felt different. The whole thing was really the opposite, which is nice. I was nervous before I started the second film because I enjoyed myself so much in the first one I was worried it wouldn\u2019t be as good.<\/p>\n

You enjoyed Antichrist<\/I>?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> Yeah, very very much – in a troubled way, but that\u2019s why we do this job, not to go in easy places.<\/p>\n

Was Lars a different director on both films?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> Very different, I think he was not well when we shot Antichrist<\/I>. He was always, not always, but he came up saying he didn\u2019t know if he would be able to finish the film and with anxiety crisis he would leave the set. It was really hard for him so we suffered looking at him, not being able to cope with everything. For this he was good and he was saying how happy he felt and so it was nice to see him recover.<\/p>\n

After the screening at Cannes, I came out thinking the movie would really shake the festival up because it\u2019s so brilliant, but then that press conference happened. How did what happened there make you feel?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> I mean for me, I\u2019ve just had to deal with like, \u2018Your face and that press conference.\u2019 It\u2019s like turned into a YouTube clip, you know? [Laughs] It\u2019s watching a friend unravel. I felt so awful for him and I knew that obviously it\u2019s inappropriate what he said in that forum. I felt embarrassed for him, too.<\/p>\n

Do you see this role pointing your career in a new direction? You\u2019re not known for this type of role.<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> Yeah and to me I never \u2013 I\u2019ve always done a mixture, like I did The Virgin Suicides<\/I>, but then I did Bring It On<\/I>. To me, I\u2019ve always mixed it up, so this is just an opportunity because of my age, too, and there aren\u2019t that many roles like this that are so unconventional for women. To me it\u2019s not a new direction personally, it just is the movie I chose to do next. You know what I mean? It wasn\u2019t like a divisive decision. It came from a very honest and excited place.<\/p>\n

I just meant coming off a Best Actress award in Cannes, that this would attract different kinds of roles offered to you.<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> I don\u2019t know. I did a really raunchy comedy just now, so I\u2019m not someone who \u2013<\/p>\n

For whom?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nA raunchy comedy. It was a play called Bachelorette<\/I> and it\u2019s Will Ferrell producing it. It\u2019s really just like girls being awful. [Laughs] That was fun for me. I get to play a real bitch, which I never get to do, so it was fun. <\/p>\n

Was it really emotionally taxing the entire experience? Was there a recovery time after?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> [Looks at Dunst] On Bachelorette<\/I>.
\nDunst:<\/B> [Laughs] That\u2019s what I was thinking! I went to Germany with my dad after. It\u2019s good to do something immediately after, I think, and not sit there alone right after you finish because you do, you create a family and then it\u2019s done and you have this schedule, too. So I went on a vacation with my dad and it was really nice. And it was weird because we went to this castle in Germany where Wagner wrote a lot of his music and where Ludwig lived, King Ludwig, which Lars named his son after, so it was a nice little \u2013 I didn\u2019t realize my dad and I were going to this place. It\u2019s called Neuschwanstein, it looks like a big Disney castle, [laughs] but it was fun because it was a little button on the end of something that I experienced and it was so special to me, so it was cathartic at the end. I was tired, but I wasn\u2019t sad or, you know, there was nothing negative about it after for me.<\/p>\n

Is there something you have to get in your head to bring this concept to life? Especially in the end when so much of Claire\u2019s emotion is coming from seeing the planet in the background. Are you looking in the distance and picturing something?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> I didn\u2019t
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> It\u2019s your imagination.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> Ignorance is bliss. My guy has no fucking idea. [Laughs] No idea!<\/p>\n

Would you want to work with Lars again and is there any truth to that thing he was mentioning in the press conference –<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> The nymphomania \u2013 [to Charlotte] are you doing that?
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> [Nods]
\nDunst:<\/B> You are? [Laughs] That\u2019s awesome!
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> I think my dad is in it as well.
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> Yeah.
\nDunst:<\/B> Oh, that\u2019s so awesome!
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> But I\u2019m still crossing fingers that \u2013 <\/p>\n

Which version?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> I haven\u2019t read the script. I just read a synopsis.<\/p>\n

Is it kind of like the third in the apocalyptic trilogy?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> I don\u2019t know. [Laughs]<\/p>\n

But he\u2019s threatened to do two versions \u2013<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> a four-hour one.<\/p>\n

How did you feel when you saw the movie after spending time shooting it? Maybe for you two because, [Alexander], you weren\u2019t really in the other half.<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> But that\u2019s why I could actually watch the second half of the movie as a member of the audience and kind of just enjoy it. It\u2019s always weird when you watch yourself, especially the first time, I\u2019m very critical and I kind of dissect my own performance. I\u2019m like, \u2018Oh fuck. That was \u2013 why? Oh! That\u2019s way too big,\u2019 and, \u2018Why did I do that? Oh, really? They chose that<\/I> take? I remember another one that was much better.\u2019 I wasn\u2019t able to go to Cannes, I was working in LA on something so I missed Cannes, so I went back to Sweden in May and it was in theaters then, or in June right after Cannes and I just, oh, I thought it was amazing<\/I>. Just the sound, I saw it in the theater and the second half \u2013
\nDunst:<\/B> The sound is crazy at the end.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> It just blew me away.
\nDunst:<\/B> I laughed at Cannes. I turned to my friend, I was like, \u2018What is going on?\u2019 [Laughs] Not because I thought it was funny, but it was so<\/I> intense. I thought it was amazing though. I thought the end was really cool when I saw it all done for the first time. I haven\u2019t seen an ending in a theater like that. And it\u2019s so unexpected because it\u2019s so intimate and then this huge, you know. It is<\/I> a sci-fi movie. It is. I don\u2019t want to say that it is, but it\u2019s kind of awesome to call it a sci-fi movie because the more intimate, the more weird and, I don\u2019t know, I\u2019d be happy if this went into a sci-fi genre.<\/p>\n

The beginning foreshadows everything, but I feel like by the end you kind of forget about all that and you\u2019re still surprised because you get so wrapped up in the characters, which I thought was really cool.<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> And the planet stuff was never \u2013 I was so worried that that would look weird or be distracting or look really phony. Did you guys ever think that?
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> No.
\nDunst:<\/B> You always thought it was gonna look good? I was like, \u2018What is this blue light?\u2019 [Laughs]
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> I was more worried about the horse riding.
\nDunst:<\/B> Oh, yeah. That.<\/p>\n

Did you ride?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> A little. [Laughs] We took it for a walk.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> A walk?
\nDunst:<\/B> [Laughs] Well, we weren\u2019t galloping through the woods.
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> [Unintelligible] Wood horses.
\nDunst:<\/B> [Laughs] So embarrassing.
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> And he didn\u2019t use any of it.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> You were sitting on wooden horses, pretending?
\nDunst:<\/B> Yeah.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> I wonder why that never made the movie. [Laughs]<\/p>\n

\"Melancholia<\/a><\/center><\/p>\n

How was it shooting the two parts? Were they separate in the shooting schedule?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> Nope, all mixed up, for the most part. We did the reception a little bit together and then we moved locations for two weeks to Gothenburg and shot an hour outside of there at the big mansion.<\/p>\n

Is there anything specific that he told you that needed to be different, maybe in terms of the point at which your character is at? You\u2019re a different person in this half.<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> Right. That was natural to me because I\u2019m an actor. You know, I should know where I\u2019m at in the movie. So for me there wasn\u2019t any like, \u2018And now, it\u2019s this.\u2019 I know what scene we\u2019re at and where we are in the script.<\/p>\n

Did Lars give you any advice before going in, any specific direction that sticks with you?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> I remember he asked me to watch Persona<\/I>.
\nDunst:<\/B> Yeah. And he told me to watch A Philadelphia Story<\/I>, too.
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> Really?
\nDunst:<\/B> Yeah.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> He told me to watch A Philadelphia Story<\/I>, too.
\nDunst:<\/B> I\u2019d seen it before, but, yeah.<\/p>\n

Why?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> I think because it takes place at a wedding and it\u2019s funny and charming and he didn\u2019t want to lose that essence even though it was a film about depression.<\/p>\n

\"Melancholia\"<\/a><\/center><\/p>\n

How about your personal preparation processes? What do you all like to do? Break down the script, anything like that?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> I just sit and I read the script like three times a day and then I take notes, just write down ideas and then 98% of them will be crap and then it\u2019s just finding those things that you thought of when you read it and finding those interesting things. It\u2019s just inspiration and coming up with ideas and then that\u2019s how I like finding the character, is how I work.<\/p>\n

You\u2019ve been working with so many great directors. Is there any aspiration to direct yourself?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> I\u2019ve done a little bit of that in Sweden. I directed a short and a couple of commercials. And, yeah, I\u2019ve written some stuff. I\u2019d like to do that eventually.
\nDunst:<\/B> I\u2019ve done two shorts before. I like it a lot. But I like it small – it would take me a minute to feel confident enough in a story. I don\u2019t have any ideas that I feel confident enough in right now to direct a film.
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> Yeah, I feel intimidated by that process, but I wish I could.<\/p>\n

Do you think that the film has a happy ending?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> I do in a weird way.
\nDunst:<\/B> Yeah.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> I don\u2019t want to give it away, but there\u2019s that one little moment between the sisters at the end and I was like, \u2018Aw.\u2019
\nDunst:<\/B> They all saw the movie. It\u2019s okay. Oh, you mean – [Laughs]. Yeah, okay. Oh, that\u2019s sweet.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> No I did! Because you finally connected, you know?
\nDunst:<\/B> Yeah.
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> And then we all died, [laughs] but there was that little brief moment.
\nDunst:<\/B> My girlfriend saw it last night and she had the biggest smile on her face at the end and then other friends of mine looked zombified. I like that the film has so many different reactions that you really can\u2019t conform it or really explain what the movie \u2013 it\u2019s hard to \u2013 this is the hardest movie I\u2019ve ever had to talk about because it\u2019s not one that you can sum up or compartmentalize into things. It\u2019s really for the audience to experience themselves, which is rare.<\/p>\n

Were you aware of those extraordinary opening images?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> I kind of knew what it would look like, a little bit, but I didn\u2019t know beautifully it would all go together like that.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve got a cheesy last question; how would you react to the end of the world?<\/FONT><\/B>
\nDunst:<\/B> I don\u2019t know. I\u2019d be sad if I never had kids and it was the end of the world, but, I don\u2019t know. [Laughs] If it was the end of the world, like, tomorrow I\u2019d probably just drink with my friends or something. I don\u2019t know. [Laughs]
\nSkarsg\u00e5rd:<\/B> I\u2019d go hang out with my family.
\nGainsbourg:<\/B> I\u2019d just want it to be quick and not know about it.
\nDunst:<\/B> Yeah, we don\u2019t have to worry about this, so it\u2019s not happen guys; it\u2019s okay. [Laughs] Not today.<\/p>\n

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